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	<title>Comments on: Poorly Thought Out Bill Seeks to Undermine Evolution</title>
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		<title>By: C.S</title>
		<link>http://thegoodatheist.net/religion/07/01/poorly-thought-out-bill-seeks-to-undermine-evolution/#comment-1724</link>
		<author>C.S</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>No surprise there.  Gov. Bobby Jindal's a religious nut from way back.

When did learning about something in school mean you were forced to believe in it, too? Thinking back to learning evolution in high school, my teachers didn't give a shit &lt;I&gt;what&lt;/i&gt; you believed in as long as you learned the material.  And learning something like evolution is a benefit to everyone - the people who believe it get to learn more about it, and those who don't can just consider is a crash course in counter-apologetics.

From what I've read, these academic freedom bills that have been cropping up basically equate to "you can't make anyone learn anything that might hold their beliefs up in a more critical light, and you can't give them bad grades just because their beliefs contradict accepted fact and empirical data".  And that's going to open a Pandora's Box of ridiculous bullshit in public schools that we have to pretend isn't ridiculous bullshit.  Can't wait until some Flat Earther family sues because the schools told their kid he was nuts ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No surprise there.  Gov. Bobby Jindal&#8217;s a religious nut from way back.</p>
<p>When did learning about something in school mean you were forced to believe in it, too? Thinking back to learning evolution in high school, my teachers didn&#8217;t give a shit <i>what</i> you believed in as long as you learned the material.  And learning something like evolution is a benefit to everyone - the people who believe it get to learn more about it, and those who don&#8217;t can just consider is a crash course in counter-apologetics.</p>
<p>From what I&#8217;ve read, these academic freedom bills that have been cropping up basically equate to &#8220;you can&#8217;t make anyone learn anything that might hold their beliefs up in a more critical light, and you can&#8217;t give them bad grades just because their beliefs contradict accepted fact and empirical data&#8221;.  And that&#8217;s going to open a Pandora&#8217;s Box of ridiculous bullshit in public schools that we have to pretend isn&#8217;t ridiculous bullshit.  Can&#8217;t wait until some Flat Earther family sues because the schools told their kid he was nuts &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin K</title>
		<link>http://thegoodatheist.net/religion/07/01/poorly-thought-out-bill-seeks-to-undermine-evolution/#comment-1776</link>
		<author>Kevin K</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 01:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I get the vibe those who proposed the Bill are shying away from coming out and saying they want to specifically "critique" Evolution.  Perhaps this is the case because they fear being shot down for overtly trying to get Creationism back into public schools.

Therefore, the way around this is to simply demand to see a list of the Theories they want to review-- _and_ the science behind their proposals.

They want to analyse scientific theories?  Fine.  But let's see which ones they want to 'fix.'

If this were demanded, the legislators would've clearly seen it's Creationists up to no good.  And in that case, they could easily terminate the proposal with justification.

As Jacob pointed out in an earlier podcast, Creationists use all kinds of ridiculous tactics to get their way(remember "Teach the Controversy?"). Now they've resorted to using BS semantics, perhaps their most effective approach yet.

All we need to do is call their bluff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get the vibe those who proposed the Bill are shying away from coming out and saying they want to specifically &#8220;critique&#8221; Evolution.  Perhaps this is the case because they fear being shot down for overtly trying to get Creationism back into public schools.</p>
<p>Therefore, the way around this is to simply demand to see a list of the Theories they want to review&#8211; _and_ the science behind their proposals.</p>
<p>They want to analyse scientific theories?  Fine.  But let&#8217;s see which ones they want to &#8216;fix.&#8217;</p>
<p>If this were demanded, the legislators would&#8217;ve clearly seen it&#8217;s Creationists up to no good.  And in that case, they could easily terminate the proposal with justification.</p>
<p>As Jacob pointed out in an earlier podcast, Creationists use all kinds of ridiculous tactics to get their way(remember &#8220;Teach the Controversy?&#8221;). Now they&#8217;ve resorted to using BS semantics, perhaps their most effective approach yet.</p>
<p>All we need to do is call their bluff.</p>
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		<title>By: Peggy</title>
		<link>http://thegoodatheist.net/religion/07/01/poorly-thought-out-bill-seeks-to-undermine-evolution/#comment-1804</link>
		<author>Peggy</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 19:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>We may be fighting a losing battle. My daughter's 7 year old friend is a the child of jehovah's witnesses. I've never met the parents, but it is hard to argue science with a 7 year old who is perfectly happy to not celebrate  the great pumpkin, xmas or even her own birthday!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We may be fighting a losing battle. My daughter&#8217;s 7 year old friend is a the child of jehovah&#8217;s witnesses. I&#8217;ve never met the parents, but it is hard to argue science with a 7 year old who is perfectly happy to not celebrate  the great pumpkin, xmas or even her own birthday!!</p>
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