Good Atheist Podcast Episode 13
Posted: December 13th, 2007 | Author: Jacob Fortin | Filed under: Podcast |Back and better than ever, today’s Good Atheist podcast talks about how Congress has a bit too much time on their hands, and why you shouldn’t name your teddy bear Muhammad, especially in Sudan!
*Note* As one listener pointed out, Sudan is indeed in Africa. I’d like to apologize for my poor geography, but no one is an expert in everything!
Sudan is in Africa, fellas.
Good show, man. I love your chemistry together and you make some damn fine points.
I find the idea to legally reinforce reminding people that Christians founded this country kind of lacking. Christians only founded this country on the backs of Taoists, Real Americans, and Africans who worshiped a ton of different things. They would also need to be recognized.
And wouldn’t they have to recognize that Jefferson Bible? The one without all the political bullshit?
PS - please liveblog X-mas.
Hey guys, listening to the show now. As a long time 2nd fiddle (in an actual orchestra), I feel your pain Ryan.
Unsure where the idea of the founding fathers being atheists come from, but here’s a nifty website I found showing otherwise.
http://www.faithofourfathers.net/
Enjoy, more to come (as always, you’ll never be rid of me
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LOL Are you guys surprised that a politician is doing something so that he’ll look good to the majority? REALLY?
Last comment and then I’m done.
Picking and choosing which rules you want to follow isn’t representative of any religion. You have to look at the ‘rules’ as a whole and then make a decision based on the entirety.
Ok, I’m off to film my “Leave Ryan Alone” video, soon to be up on Youtube
Ben, if you want to read the real religious underpinning of your founding fathers, go here instead
http://skeptically.org/thinkersonreligion/id9.html
yeah my page has quotes too… but here’s another site if you want each persons’ denominations and whatnot
http://www.adherents.com/gov/Founding_Fathers_Religion.html
what a pathetic attempt to rewrite history by the Christian right.
Ben says:
Picking and choosing which rules you want to follow isn’t representative of any religion. You have to look at the ‘rules’ as a whole and then make a decision based on the entirety.
What one should do and what one does aren’t always the same thing. I’ve known plenty of ‘Christians’ who pick and choose, and see nothing wrong with it. ‘Times change,’ they said. ‘Those parts don’t apply anymore.’
Truthfully, I don’t think decisions can be made based on the whole Bible. It’s too contradictory, mistranslated and outdated, making it necessary to ignore parts of it.
On the ‘Don’t Mess With Christmas, Fool’ resolution be the US congress, the thing reads like a circle jerk. Biggest=/=best, people. Just because you have the most sheep, doesn’t mean they’re the healthiest flock.
Rewrite history eh? Let’s look at the Declaration of Independence.
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.”
Come on Jacob! You really think a bunch of atheists would have written that?
As for the ProudSinner’s comment, I partially agree. I think decisions can be made based on the whole bible, provided you have a good understanding of it. Mistranslated? Maybe verse here or there, I’ll give you that. But from what I’ve studied, even the parts that might be mistranslated don’t suddenly give the bible some kind of new meaning.
That’s why i said most of them were deists. And as for the wording, pay careful attention to the use of the word “Creator”. Notice the word “Their”. It doesn’t say “The” creator, for the specific reason that none of the founding fathers believed that any particular religion had more sway than the other. You read it only as a Christian document because you are in fact a Christian. I read it as what it is: a document that is neutral concerning the particular religious sensibilities of others.
OK, so they’re a bunch of deists who just happen to go to church? I’ll agree with you that they didn’t want to have one religion dominate though. I think that’s pretty evident in the whole ‘freedom of religion’ thing.
Welcome back Ryan! Now where the did you go? School, because you sound way smarter and Fortin came across as being the funnier one. You guys do have one the best atheist podcast . All the other ones are hosted by old farts who sound angry and lack a funny bone.
I love the extra swearing too keep it real bitches, keep dropping F bombs like you were attacking Iraq. On a serious note what are your backgrounds like in Phd’s. Why not start sending shout outs during podcast, I know i was the reason your coming out with more podcasts in a weekly fashion. So say my name BITCH!
Love forever and a day,
Joe Botelho
Man I hate the way the western world reacts to the uncivilized damn cave man antics those Sudan guys (and others!) have. We’re just like “well it’s their prerogative, their laws, their religion…” when instead we should be screaming our asses of at them retards. IT’S NOT OK TO STONE A WOMAN FOR GETTING RAPED YOU GODDAMN ASSHOLES.
Man did I kill that conversation… sorry for that. What I meant to say was I’m impressed with you Jake staying true to the whole “good” part of thegoodatheist, since me myself is a pretty angry atheist. I just get annoyed at religious people and then I sit in a corner and mutter to myself all evening. And then my g/f runs off with another dude. Yep, that’s the way it usually goes, so i should try the “good” thing.
Just wanted to say happy new year to Jake and Ryan, keep up the work on the two greatest podcasts out there. Peace, love and atheism from southern Sweden!
Yeah, happy new year Jacob and Ryan and… the other guy… what’s his name again? I’ve enjoyed our conversations, and I’ve even learned a few things!
Swedish guy mentioned you have a two podcasts… what’s the other one?
Take care,
Ben